This is the substance of all the disputations. I have not changed anything in them according to my own opinion.

Afterward, on that same day, I stood before our lord the king, and he said: “Let the disputation remain, for I have never seen a man who was not in the right argue his case as well as you have.”

I heard in the court that the king and the preachers wished to come to the synagogue on the Sabbath. So I remained in the city for eight days.

When they came there on the following Sabbath, I answered our lord the king properly and as was fitting, because he preached at great length, saying that Jesus was the messiah.

I stood on my feet and said:

“The words of our lord the king are, in my eyes, noble, excellent and honorable, since they come from the mouth of a prince who is noble and honored, with none like him in the world. But I will not praise them as true, because I have clear proofs and words as bright as the sun that the truth is not as he says. Still, it isn’t proper to dispute with him.

“But I will say one thing that greatly astonishes me. The things he tells us, that we should believe in Jesus as the messiah, were brought to our ancestors by Jesus himself. He was the one who tried to tell them these things. Yet in his presence they denied him completely and strongly. According to your belief, he knew and was able to say more than the king, since you consider him divine. If our ancestors, who saw him and knew him, did not listen to him, how can we believe and obey the king, who knows the matter only through a distant report, heard from people who did not know him and were not from his land, unlike our ancestors, who knew him and were witnesses?”

After this, Friar Raymond of Penyaforte stood up and preached about the Trinity, saying that it is wisdom, will and power. He said in the synagogue: “The master also admitted this in Girona to the words of Friar Paul.”

I stood on my feet and said:

“Listen and hear my voice, Jews and gentiles.

“Friar Paul asked me in Girona whether I believe in the Trinity. I said to him: ‘What is this Trinity? Is it three coarse bodies, like human beings, that are the Godhead?’

“He said: ‘No.’

“‘Or is it three subtle things, such as souls, or three angels?’

“He said: ‘No.’

“‘Or is it one thing blended from three, like bodies blended from the four elements?’

“He said: ‘No.’

“‘If so, what is the Trinity?’

“He said: ‘Wisdom, will and power.’

“And I said that I acknowledge that God is wise and not foolish, that he wills without bodily feeling and that he is powerful and not weak. But the language of Trinity is an absolute error, because wisdom in the Creator is not an accident or attribute added to him. Rather, he and his wisdom are one, he and his will are one, and he and his power are one. If so, wisdom, will and power are all one. And even if they were attributes in him, the thing that is God would not be three. Rather, he would be one subject bearing three attributes.

“Our lord the king gave here a comparison that the mistaken ones taught him. He said that in wine there are three things: color, taste and smell, and yet it is one thing.

“But this is a complete error, because redness, taste and smell in wine are distinct things, and one can be found without the other. There can be red, white and other colors, and the same is true of taste and smell. Also, the redness is not the wine, nor is the taste or the smell. The substance of the wine is the thing that fills the vessel. It is a body that bears three distinct attributes, and there is no true unity in it.

“And if we count this way, by error, then we must say there are four: the thing that is God, his wisdom, his will and his power. Behold, they are four.

“And you must also say five, because he is living, and life in him is like wisdom. So his definition would be: living, wise, willing, powerful and the substance of divinity, which makes five. All this is clear error.”

Then Friar Paul stood up and said that he believes in complete unity, and nevertheless there are three in it. It is a very deep matter, he said, which the angels and the heavenly princes do not understand.

I stood and said:

“It is clear that a person cannot believe what he does not know. If so, the angels do not believe in the Trinity.”

His companions silenced him.

Our lord the king then stood up, they descended from the platform and they left.

The next day I stood before our lord the king, and he said to me: “Return to your city, to life and peace.” He gave me three hundred dinars, and I parted from him with great affection. May God grant me life in the world to come. Amen.